tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post5520234906263292938..comments2023-09-21T04:02:29.457-04:00Comments on Skeptical Scalpel: The robot is here to draw your bloodSkeptical Scalpelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-56462817658372444002015-05-17T07:35:44.954-04:002015-05-17T07:35:44.954-04:00That's a good suggestion but there is still th...That's a good suggestion but there is still the issue of what if the patient moves or flinches? Also, central lines require local anesthesia in awake patients. The robot would have to be able to inject it. I think a person would still need to be present,<br /><br />Also, US-guided internal jugular placement is pretty efficient now. I'm not sure the robot can do much better.Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-60532729056047885172015-05-16T16:36:57.111-04:002015-05-16T16:36:57.111-04:00This device might be adapted to place central lin...This device might be adapted to place central lines .William Reicherthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10062067819184876941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-91334690652728275012015-05-06T08:59:02.338-04:002015-05-06T08:59:02.338-04:00There was no mention of cost in the articles I rea...There was no mention of cost in the articles I read. I suspect that was on purpose. The prototypes are just that. If they were ever mass produced, I think they would be quite expensive.Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-80779505064753923452015-05-04T14:52:17.627-04:002015-05-04T14:52:17.627-04:00This is completely distasteful. The company is obv...This is completely distasteful. The company is obviously trying to create a market for a product, likely because that is the best way to make a ton of money with no competition. I'm afraid to imagine how much this machine would cost, just look at the price of a glidescope($10-15k depending on the model), which is basically a $100 laryngoscope with a $200 fiber optic camera attached. If they really wanted to help people with this technology, they would try to adapt it to be able to get vascular access for ECMO for patients in the field. That would save lives. In the hospital the money would be better spent on more nursing staff. Kevin Oliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15017495249889042593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-91914873192903147332015-05-03T07:09:22.564-04:002015-05-03T07:09:22.564-04:00Several published papers have found that daily blo...Several published papers have found that daily blood draws in hospitalized patients can cause anemia. Many patients have unnecessary blood tests because of defensive medicine, habit, need for reassurance etc. Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-10274497351823300802015-05-02T23:31:28.036-04:002015-05-02T23:31:28.036-04:00Hey Skep,
I complained because my heme/onc said n...Hey Skep,<br /><br />I complained because my heme/onc said no donating blood. Between him, the bloodthirsty neuro and the GI, they took 17 vials of blood in 24 hours. I said ... did you think about this one? I could donate with the amount you guys pull out. He got a big grin on the face and said the volume is less than a bag. <br /><br />I'd say they need to start teaching that to every generation. Maybe I wouldn't be anemic so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-67009943404006121272015-05-01T17:58:37.106-04:002015-05-01T17:58:37.106-04:00I, for one, welcome our new Robot Blood Taking Ove...I, for one, welcome our new Robot Blood Taking Overlords.<br /><br />But, seriously, we're obviously a long way from robots doing this alone, anymore than we're anywhere near hip-replacement robots doing the whole surgery by themselves. <br /><br />50 years ago to test how your blood sugar levels were doing you had to pee on a stick. Today you can wear something on your wrist that tells you what your bG reading is on demand and sound a warning when you go too high or too low. We're only a step away from an insulin pump that automagically changes dose and/or injects glucose when needed.<br /><br />It took 50 years to get this far. No phlebotomists are going to be out of a job tomorrow from this robot.Moosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10397412122635951126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-56555957942414587772015-04-30T08:28:09.246-04:002015-04-30T08:28:09.246-04:00Old, good points. Conditions would have to be perf...Old, good points. Conditions would have to be perfect for it to work every time.<br /><br />Jen, I agree. When I was an intern, we drew morning bloods on all our patients. It honed our skills and made us question whether bloodwork was really necessary on every patient.Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-187377297975828482015-04-30T08:24:06.531-04:002015-04-30T08:24:06.531-04:00I worked as a phlebotomist to pay my way through c...I worked as a phlebotomist to pay my way through college. What a job! I learned a lot.JENhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18357044911025475893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-82462699167841318762015-04-29T21:29:11.872-04:002015-04-29T21:29:11.872-04:00What does the robot do when it encounters a rollin...What does the robot do when it encounters a rolling vein or a vein collapsed by the Vacutainer. Can it figure out how to regulate the aspiration pressure with a syringe so as to not collapse the vein. I think it would be easier and just as effective to develop a robot to punch the patient in the nose while a bowl is positioned under the nose. The robot could also serve double duty as a sparing partnerOldfoolrnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01747485143127099085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-88877405545614045482015-04-29T21:25:19.976-04:002015-04-29T21:25:19.976-04:00Les, I doubt that the concept has been thought thr...Les, I doubt that the concept has been thought through that thoroughly. However, I n my state, nursing assistants make $2/hour less than NAs. That's a $500 difference over one year. <br /><br />Anon, I agree with you.Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-53055666066797115212015-04-29T21:05:01.631-04:002015-04-29T21:05:01.631-04:00Do they really need more of this given the current...Do they really need more of this given the current issues with the DaVinci system? Humans are good for a few things one of them being to safely draw blood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-13214857674543904212015-04-29T16:21:11.238-04:002015-04-29T16:21:11.238-04:00So the point is to replace med techs and phlebotom...So the point is to replace med techs and phlebotomists with nurses aides who are paid less? Lesnoreply@blogger.com