tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post3459839292496965775..comments2023-09-21T04:02:29.457-04:00Comments on Skeptical Scalpel: "System errors" plague the NTSB and a San Francisco TV stationSkeptical Scalpelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-53757993804716401862013-07-17T17:35:49.826-04:002013-07-17T17:35:49.826-04:00I hate those pilot-surgeon-airplane analogies and ...I hate those pilot-surgeon-airplane analogies and have blogged about them. Put "pilots" and "airplanes" in the search field in the upper right portion of my blog site.<br /><br />I'm not sure that a checklist covers the scenario that brought down this plane. The inexperienced pilot (with this plane only so not exactly like a resident) was senior to the co-pilot who was supposedly training him. The flight engineer was senior to both pilots, but not a pilot himself. There was a third pilot in the cockpit whose seniority status I do not know.<br /><br />For a fascinating look at this situation, go to this blog [http://askakorean.blogspot.com/]. Be prepared to spend some time and read the comments too. Start with the initial post of July 11.Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-42979828804521693882013-07-17T17:07:15.327-04:002013-07-17T17:07:15.327-04:00This is a slightly different focus than your story...This is a slightly different focus than your story, but there are many comparisons being done between surgery and airlines these days, especially the "checklist". Where does the pre flight check list fit in here? Im sure the crew realized the focal inexperience of the pilot and trainer, but would that have been caught in the checklist? Wasnt the pilot similar to a resident who is doing a new procedure? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-87726310686729841372013-07-14T21:54:10.885-04:002013-07-14T21:54:10.885-04:00Carolyn and the two anons, thank you for commentin...Carolyn and the two anons, thank you for commenting.<br /><br />Carolyn, great story. <br /><br />I agree that a fifth grader would probably have known the names were fake. I overestimated the level at which that would have happened.<br /><br />I agree that it is Ron Burgundy level anchoring.Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-70254713277101798372013-07-14T20:34:14.416-04:002013-07-14T20:34:14.416-04:00I think the first responder to posting link had it...I think the first responder to posting link had it right: this is why we think they're idiots. <br /><br />Gracious. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-52985885007874981862013-07-14T15:07:40.331-04:002013-07-14T15:07:40.331-04:00It sounds like the station only "confirmed&qu...It sounds like the station only "confirmed" the names with the NTSB intern, and the joke originated within the station.<br /><br />The joke names were so obvious at a 5th grade level that they had to be injected immediately before the announcer. It has been the vogue for at least 10 years to blame systems, but sometimes you just have to fire people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-41967022863237277402013-07-14T14:10:49.596-04:002013-07-14T14:10:49.596-04:00It often amazes me how those who make their living...It often amazes me how those who make their living simply reading out loud cannot seem to do even that. <br /><br />After a well-known local writer died, I listened to the radio news guy horribly mangling the pronunciation of his name for three consecutive newscasts before I simply couldn't stand it anymore and contacted the station directly. The news guy's response: "Yes, I may have gotten his name wrong a few times..."<br /><br />Isn't that their only job? To say things right? Carolyn Thomashttp://www.heartsisters.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-92018482158432010402013-07-14T13:59:42.358-04:002013-07-14T13:59:42.358-04:00Yes, personal responsibility.
No doubt it was a ...Yes, personal responsibility. <br /><br />No doubt it was a joke gone bad. It will be interesting when the source is finally revealed. I'm guessing someone on the staff of the TV station made up the names as a joke. Then another person (hard to believe) thought it was fact and sent it up the chain of command.Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-33602174930643175232013-07-14T12:45:39.703-04:002013-07-14T12:45:39.703-04:00I would think that Barbara Walters didn't achi...I would think that Barbara Walters didn't achieve the success she did by accepting any statement given to her by staff without proofreading before airing the information. What about personal responsibility?<br /><br />Then again ..I know I tend to micromanage at times. Dot every I - Cross every T.<br /><br />I wonder if it wasn't a joke gone bad?SeaSprayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906503090688697222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-85542484867531578662013-07-14T09:29:13.974-04:002013-07-14T09:29:13.974-04:00Life imitates art.Life imitates art.Skeptical Scalpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13206922456661320751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4968787219619380438.post-59466084976745739412013-07-14T09:23:57.406-04:002013-07-14T09:23:57.406-04:00Ron Burgundy lives.Ron Burgundy lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com